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so did you go to the thing this morning

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casual yes I did tell us about that this

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morning the sunrise remembrance was held

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at the County Convention Center and it

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was it was it was really nice it was

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actually very well done very tasteful

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and they I got to shake hands with

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sheriff Lombardo Stephen Chuck sis Iraq

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was there as well so all the big fake

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guys were there and I was right up front

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so I got a really good video of that

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sisal like is the governor of Nevada the

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governor and did he speak yes he did yes

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he did anything of note not really but

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there's something that is of note if you

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mention it I didn't catch it cuz I was

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probably trying too busy trying to film

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and what's happening is he can assigned

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a committee seven-member committee to

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come up with a permanent memorial for

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the for the 58 and and of course the

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survivors as well but the problem with

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that is distractor there's a necklace on

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the ground the problem with that or

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maybe it's not a problem we'll say

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there's your tanks the background is

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that he didn't come out like months ago

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and say hey we're wanting to do this

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let's get a let's get some feedback and

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let's talk to everybody so he's gonna

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have these seven members they're going

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to come up with a permanent memorial but

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it doesn't sound like it's too open to

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the public now there's a vote on the

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committee tomorrow the a vote for the

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actual committee tomorrow I'm gonna make

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certain to attend that to find out

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exactly how they plan on doing this

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because it's it's it's crucial because

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right now the Memorial Gardens you're

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familiar with Las Vegas so imagine how

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far'd

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the Memorial Gardens are our memory

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guards whatever as compared to where I'm

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at right now and so if you come to Vegas

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and you're wanting to honor the fallen

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there's nothing here

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the only memorial here is Melissa's and

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thanks to Eddie Schmitz for you know

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coming through and making it more of a

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permanent memorial and and so we'll take

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a look at that in a minute but there's

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nothing here there's literally salt you

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see it's just the dirt lot they're gonna

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turn this into a parking lot for the

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stadium across the way there which you

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can actually see between Mandalay Bay

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and and the Delano I said it right that

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time I always say Delano Delano yes I

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mentioned something about what I what

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they've reported that they're gonna do

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with the location on my episode that

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went out this week which is that first

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it's going to be a parking lot for the

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Raiders

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but the ultimate plan is some type of a

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sports slash community facility that was

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supposed to contain a memorial correct

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so I'm saying the only thing is is that

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it's it's kind of like an afterthought

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way if you read the article and the way

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it was written and the way it was put

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out there was kind of like oh we're

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gonna do this we're gonna do this going

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to do this oh and and they didn't say

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they were gonna put it there they said

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that they would be open to listen to

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ideas about putting memorial there or

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what have you they didn't say they're

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gonna foot the bill you know nothing

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like that so now these governor's

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committee is that just assumed that the

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memorial they're talking about would be

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at the site or not necessarily no it's

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it's a is that we know nothing there's

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there's no information on that yet I'd

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like to speculate that that it would be

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natural to be here I can tell you this

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there's a few people that are on that

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committee that I'm familiar with and I

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know that they're they're gonna push for

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it to be down here yeah they can still

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keep the other one don't get me wrong I

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mean that's that's its own it has its

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own feeling it's at its own you know

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it's its own I'm lack of words here on

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this one but basically it's that area is

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set up and

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according to the person that designed it

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to be like mom's backyard mom's garden

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that kind of thing so anyone can come

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you can plan anything you want you can

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add stuff to the memorial and things

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like that which I like that I do like

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that idea the problem was they weren't

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really taking care of it

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and so again Eddie Schmidt's he was

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going out of his way he lives here and

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he goes down there he was down there

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several times a week just clearing out

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weeds and doing everything that they

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probably should have done but of course

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there's their claim is they didn't want

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to maintain it because they wanted it to

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be like a mom's garden and you know I

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guess moms don't maintain their gardens

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I don't know not very wise so I read

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that some of the victims are not real

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thrilled about it being used as a

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parking lot at least until the other

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thing is built and I tend to agree with

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that well I guess if I had my druthers

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if I had to choose between it being a

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parking lot and a training facility for

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Swat which was the original plan that

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they came up with they're going to

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donate it to ovm PD as a training

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facility for SWAT now there's two sides

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of the fences there some people excel

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well that'd be great because then they

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would be right here and it's another

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situation happened but the problem is

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that that there's a lot of people that

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have some issues with LVM PD as far as

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the investigation was concerned

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information coming out and so forth so

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it was it kind of like rubbed people

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wrong as well so putting a parking lot

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there you're basically going to pave

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over the entire area where family

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members died and make a parking lot and

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then have a healing center which would

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be for the players you know more of a

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medical sports facility

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it's you know like a rec room and

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weightlifting and stuff like that I

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guess so I guess with windows so people

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can come watch everybody work out I

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don't know how they would do that but

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that would make sense I guess yeah well

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I would imagine the victims also would

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not be thrilled with the idea that MGM

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is the one putting together the memorial

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you know a little ironic considering

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their failure to take responsibility to

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date yeah I think it's an Ellen have a

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talent I think this

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tuition is that and that what would MGM

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do there you know they're part of the

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problem but they also need to be part of

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the solution there needs to be some

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healing process involved and it needs to

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involve MGM MGM needs to you know

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they're there the mediation is pretty

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close to over and they really need to

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come forward and say look you know this

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you know they they don't even have to

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preface it they don't have to admit

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liability or anything if they're if

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people died on their property if someone

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dies on your property you're a bunch of

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people 58 people died on your property

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you know over 400 shot over 800 injured

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and 22,000 that attended the event you

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should have an obligation to do

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something a little bit more than just

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tell people you're gonna build a parking

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lot yeah well I think would behoove the

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attorneys for the victims to make that

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part of the settlement what what money

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they're gonna designate to a memorial

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and what's gonna when they're gonna

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build it where they're gonna build it

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etc and that was mentioned

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rest in peace Katherine Lombardo we did

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have some talks about that but we never

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I never got an answer back it was more

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or less than passing so before we talk

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about a since wrap the tanks I want to

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talk about them but but also since you

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just mentioned the settlement give us an

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update on what you know about the the

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settlement with the victims well the

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settlement with the victims there

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there's there's several things I can

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bring up to speed on a lot of people

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weren't aware that back in the beginning

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sheriff Lombardo and governor sis alike

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put together a GoFundMe type account and

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that people could donate quite a bit of

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money into it

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those those monies have been distributed

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I don't think a lot of people are aware

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of it where I won't say the DA I know

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the dollar amount but I'm not going to

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say the dollar amount a specific dollar

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amount was distributed amongst the

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fifty-eight the families of the victims

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and then a different amount was

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distributed amongst all the other

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remaining victims or I don't know how

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they distributed that part of what the

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actual dollar amounts there I'm familiar

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with the dollar amounts for the other

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and so that's that's been done so that

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that's complete now as far as the update

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on the mediation I believe on the 15th

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they're going to go back in and do some

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more talks I don't know

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I mean I kind of know some of the

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discussions but not enough to really

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come out here and report on it and be

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sure about what I'm saying but the the

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15th I believe is going to be more

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ironing out the details it's a it's a

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lot of logistics to move eight hundred

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and some-odd million dollars into the

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pockets of the people that deserve it

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but the the other than spectrum is - is

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that of course the lawyers you know

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they're not gonna be happy until they

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get more and more and more and more they

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want it to actually hurt MGM and and so

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I'm sure that they're looking for ways

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to make that dollar around higher

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because that's what they're paid to do

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so you think there's still - open

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question what questions what's the total

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amount and then how we're going to

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distribute it correct means that we

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haven't made a lot of progress I think

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most of it is complete I don't think

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there's a lot to you know to work with

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other than some of the you know are not

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the particulars and what-have-you but

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you know you know you're a lawyer you

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you know how long that could take they

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could drag that out for another year if

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they want it but you know it's been two

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years so then you know the lawsuits of

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you know there's a lot of settlements

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that are out there and there's people

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that probably wanting to take it

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individually so yeah the sad part is is

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you know to the extent people need money

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they needed it ASAP not three years down

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the road okay so let's talk about the

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tanks that's interesting I've never been

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in that's actually Airport property

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right where the tanks are close to them

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until they kicked me out okay and and

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and I think if I'm remembering correctly

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the last time we did an episode together

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you said some interesting things if I'm

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remembering correctly about the tanks in

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was he or was he not attempting to hit

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the alleged shooter the person we don't

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have the ballistics on the person we

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can't put the guns in the hands of the

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other side's going to love that he was

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not shooting at the tanks if you look at

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the thank you

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me I'm gonna stand it up here a little

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bit I get the thing to work let's go

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that way so that white pass that you see

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there that was where the shot was that's

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shot number seven or eight from room 134

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and the situation that you that you're

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looking at with the tanks is that

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everybody's just shooting at the tank so

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Mandalay Bay is right there how many how

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many yards would you say that is two

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thousand or two thousand feet or two

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thousand feet so you know heart of a

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shot is that I can make it I can make it

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with with my eyes closed the problem is

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is that a lot of people were claiming

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it's a 308 shot you can once you test

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for your rearrange and elevation you can

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you can hit these targets I mean there's

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no reason why I wouldn't hit it but the

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problem is is that he wasn't shooting at

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the tanks because if he was you know

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Stephen Pollock was a very intelligent

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man

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that is a fact and given that I

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seriously doubt that he was shooting at

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the tanks what he was probably shooting

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at which I won't show you and I'm

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looking at it is an object that's beside

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the tanks or near the tanks and what

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happens is this you could shoot at these

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things all day long I could stand right

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here with a fully automatic rifle and

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just launch shots and these things

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they're not going to explode

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what's in the tanks is you can see on

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the sign there if I get closer here you

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can see a sign that says jet a unless

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it's backwards because of the way the

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camera does but that's jet a fuel jet a

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fuel is basically kerosene and it has to

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be atomized in the air before to work

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sell jet engines work they basically

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spray

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yeah I'm fine mist into the the the jet

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engine and then ignite it and then that

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goes out the back that's where you get

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your thrust and you're not gonna get

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that by just burning it you could take a

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torch to you could put it in a jar take

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a torch to it throw matches in it's not

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going to ignite so what you have to do

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is hit something else so inside this

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area here and actually just notice they

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exchanged it which is good

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there was a there was a object that was

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over here that apparently doesn't appear

329
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to be there anymore and that object

330
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there's another one on top of the tank

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and if you hit that it's already

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pressurized so the fuel inside that

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chamber would spray into the air and

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then your next shot would ignite it the

335
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first shot wouldn't ignite it the next

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shot would because he was supposedly and

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there we're certain on the exact because

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we don't have the ballistics yeah I mean

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I kind of know what rounds he was

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shooting but we're not a hundred percent

341
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certain that he was shooting the insid

342
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Neri heads which would cause that to

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ignite if he actually hit that what is

344
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the the structure that you're talking

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about what would you call it was this

346
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well for FA won't allow me to say what

347
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it is so I'm not gonna say it but it'd

348
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be like telling someone how to do

349
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something not giving them an instruction

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manual

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anyway it's another type of tank well

352
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it's it's a pressure it's to get the

353
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fuel from the tank to the designation

354
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and where the tanks gonna go and how

355
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hard would that have been to hit that

356
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would have been quite a bit harder in

357
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fact he never hit it that's what he was

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aiming at and you can't really see here

359
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and this thing's whenever I turn this

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thing on it wants to not there we go now

361
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I can do it so I'm going to show you

362
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with this tank twice so the object he

363
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was aiming at was obviously in this

364
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direction and the particular object was

365
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most likely on top of this tank did the

366
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bullet actually puncture the tank yes it

367
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did so gas would have been leaking out

368
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if it was that filled these tanks are

369
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built like the Titanic in the day it's a

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double hull so you have an tank and our

371
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tank so if the if the outer tank is

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struck or something happens to it or a

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car crashes into or even a plane crashes

374
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into it it's probably not going to do

375
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much well if a plane crashes and

376
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probably do some damage but the tank

377
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itself is a dual dual layer so that if

378
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it hit the inside fuel

379
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would run into the middle cavity in

380
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between the two tanks I don't know if

381
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you can see it there but if you look up

382
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you'll see the paths it is but if you

383
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look at the lip you're gonna see another

384
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small pass you see that yeah right right

385
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right toward the top just a top right of

386
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the other patch so that bear and if you

387
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follow this trajectory straight over

388
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it's a direct hit from from that floor a

389
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lot of people said he couldn't hit that

390
00:16:10,749 --> 00:16:08,019
lip and now we we believe he had

391
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armor-piercing bullets correct correct

392
00:16:16,119 --> 00:16:13,399
well armor-piercing and ordinary heads

393
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they're not the ballistics didn't

394
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specifically say which bullet was were

395
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these bullets I mean we know what they

396
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are based on just what he bought from

397
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Hague but do armor-piercing bullets fire

398
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just like any other bullet yep yeah

399
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and they're just what a lot more

400
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expensive yeah they're definitely a lot

401
00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:37,430
more expensive and on top of that they

402
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do a lot more damage they're made to

403
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penetrate you know different different

404
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layers like the different thicknesses of

405
00:16:50,819 --> 00:16:47,029
Steel you know you have armor piercing

406
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which is the specifically designed to

407
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pierce metal plates I you know ie a

408
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Humvee or APC

409
00:17:02,499 --> 00:16:59,050
armored personnel carrier are they legal

410
00:17:03,819 --> 00:17:02,509
yes they are legal so what what is that

411
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:03,829
I forget the name of the guy who was

412
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charged Hague Hague I thought he was

413
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charged for selling the armor-piercing

414
00:17:15,490 --> 00:17:11,929
no he was and and the they're not legal

415
00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:15,500
to just sell in the way he was selling

416
00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:17,329
it and now that was the issue but

417
00:17:21,730 --> 00:17:19,549
they're legal in some states not legal

418
00:17:24,159 --> 00:17:21,740
in others their you know the the the

419
00:17:26,289 --> 00:17:24,169
laws about the types of bullets he was

420
00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:26,299
selling plus he was making them you know

421
00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:27,860
it gets a little convoluted when you

422
00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:29,059
start getting into that area which is

423
00:17:35,049 --> 00:17:33,110
why the case is being dragged on because

424
00:17:38,049 --> 00:17:35,059
there's a lot of other circumstances and

425
00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:38,059
so that case is still pending correct

426
00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:42,890
and the only reason that paddock would

427
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:45,110
have bought armor-piercing would be

428
00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:47,090
because of these tanks right is there

429
00:17:50,289 --> 00:17:48,289
any other reason we could think of why

430
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:50,299
he would have armor-piercing that's the

431
00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:51,530
only reason and

432
00:17:54,550 --> 00:17:53,150
unless the only other the only other

433
00:17:57,130 --> 00:17:54,560
reason is if he had picked a different

434
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,140
target such as a police officer or

435
00:18:01,000 --> 00:17:59,360
someone in a car or something that the

436
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:01,010
only fired eight shots and all eight

437
00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:04,160
shots went this direction the first the

438
00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:07,160
first five shots came this direction

439
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:10,580
they all missed the six shot excuse me

440
00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:13,600
the fifth shot in the six shot were

441
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:15,980
successful in that they hit a target and

442
00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,170
shots number seven and number eight

443
00:18:24,220 --> 00:18:20,480
we're done quite a bit later so from

444
00:18:25,390 --> 00:18:24,230
1008 til 1009 that's when the shots made

445
00:18:28,930 --> 00:18:25,400
this direction were fired now I

446
00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:28,940
originally as many people thought when

447
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:34,190
you first heard the first shots at the

448
00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:36,650
venue the very first shots were believed

449
00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:41,380
to have been going into the tanks

450
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:44,180
however subsequently everyone was able

451
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:47,210
to find out that the that area was not

452
00:18:52,450 --> 00:18:49,850
the case and they barely there was being

453
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:52,460
shot into as a VIP area and into the

454
00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:54,410
area right in front of the stage how

455
00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,710
many shots did he fire initially into

456
00:19:02,590 --> 00:18:59,600
the VIP area and center of the stage

457
00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:02,600
before he then before he then moved to

458
00:19:09,340 --> 00:19:06,800
the tanks that is slightly questionable

459
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,350
but it's six to eight shots that were

460
00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:10,880
initially fired and those were two to

461
00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:13,190
three rounds he fired those using the

462
00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:14,900
same weapon that he fired with the buff

463
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shot and he just he was doing single

464
00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:18,650
single shots he was basically ranging

465
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you know you basically fired some shots

466
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and you either do ranging or the sick

467
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:26,270
minded thought is that he wanted to

468
00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:28,400
actually see through the scope if he

469
00:19:34,210 --> 00:19:30,710
fired the one that had the scope to see

470
00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:34,220
what he was actually hitting that's

471
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:36,200
personally that's closer to what I

472
00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:38,330
believe is probably the case and then

473
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once he realized he started you know

474
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,210
people started running around he

475
00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:43,760
realized oh I better start shooting for

476
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real and I stopped shooting the single

477
00:19:51,130 --> 00:19:49,820
shots and you know went essentially bump

478
00:19:53,470 --> 00:19:51,140
stock auto if you want to call it that

479
00:19:56,370 --> 00:19:53,480
way and you know I hate even thinking

480
00:20:00,790 --> 00:19:56,380
about or talking about such a sick mind

481
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:00,800
right what would have been his sick

482
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:04,370
thinking about starting with a handful

483
00:20:06,850 --> 00:20:05,360
of shots

484
00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:06,860
the festival itself and then moving to

485
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:09,980
the tanks and then moving back well the

486
00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:13,130
situation and turn it around this right

487
00:20:21,940 --> 00:20:16,660
here yeah metros finest driving around

488
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:21,950
the I'm sorry putting your head into his

489
00:20:28,780 --> 00:20:24,890
sick head what what could have been his

490
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:28,790
thinking behind starting with you know a

491
00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:30,530
few random shots at the festival then

492
00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:32,360
moving to a few random shots of the

493
00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:35,150
tanks and then back to the festival well

494
00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:38,360
the the first few shots again being the

495
00:20:42,010 --> 00:20:40,220
sick minded individual and then starting

496
00:20:46,090 --> 00:20:42,020
the the other shots and then switching

497
00:20:47,620 --> 00:20:46,100
off he didn't really switch back and

498
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:47,630
forth the only time he did he was

499
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:49,520
basically in my mind now this is the

500
00:20:53,409 --> 00:20:51,410
speculation on my part cuz obviously we

501
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:53,419
don't have the person to talk to but

502
00:21:00,030 --> 00:20:55,970
based on my history and looking at these

503
00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:00,040
things the first shots were basically

504
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:02,870
into that VIP area or very close to

505
00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:05,570
where Jason Aldean was so the question

506
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:07,880
could be was was he shooting at Jason

507
00:21:14,590 --> 00:21:10,970
Aldean and did he miss those shots and

508
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,600
hit the people I'll show you exactly how

509
00:21:18,730 --> 00:21:17,120
that angle is and you can get a very

510
00:21:21,159 --> 00:21:18,740
good perspective of how that would work

511
00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:21,169
do you think you think he could see

512
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:24,470
Jason Aldean from his window yeah yep

513
00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:25,580
absolutely

514
00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:27,620
at least he could see the general the

515
00:21:32,350 --> 00:21:29,809
place he was because the the way the

516
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:32,360
stage is is you know there's little bars

517
00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:35,530
that go up the the angle bars like the

518
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:37,940
camera and the proper term form but you

519
00:21:43,539 --> 00:21:41,450
know like DJ booth type stuff those are

520
00:21:46,090 --> 00:21:43,549
around the perimeter of the stage and

521
00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:46,100
then you have basically graphics that

522
00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:48,860
are painted over some form of fabric

523
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:50,900
that covers the rest of it it's not

524
00:21:54,610 --> 00:21:53,210
really a solid structure so he would

525
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:54,620
just have to estimate where he thought

526
00:22:00,730 --> 00:21:57,230
Aldean would be and then fire into it

527
00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:00,740
now that may be the case because I don't

528
00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:04,070
think I've ever said this before my room

529
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:06,710
when I was originally I was in the 232

530
00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:11,330
to 1/9 and I could see that where if he

531
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:15,590
was in 3 2 1 3 5 that that angle would

532
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:19,410
be okay to try to see he onto the stage

533
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:21,360
the problem is is if he would have been

534
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:27,000
in 3 2 2 1 4 3 2 2 2 2 3 5 Jesus let me

535
00:22:31,910 --> 00:22:30,150
get my bearings straight 3 2 2 3 5 which

536
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:31,920
is that this end I mean point of the

537
00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:35,520
building here seen get an idea alright

538
00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:38,580
so maybe here and this side here is your

539
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:41,660
100 wing this side here is your 200 wing

540
00:22:47,049 --> 00:22:44,490
now this is inverted on this I believe

541
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:47,059
because the way the camera does but the

542
00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:51,510
the angle from 3 to 235 may actually

543
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:54,660
have given him a better shot at the that

544
00:22:59,720 --> 00:22:57,510
stage this is a 200 wing instead of the

545
00:23:01,220 --> 00:22:59,730
100 wing correct which is actually a

546
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,230
little bit further away though right

547
00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:03,840
not by much it is but it's it's

548
00:23:09,169 --> 00:23:05,640
negligible it would not really change

549
00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:09,179
much well I believe in the thing that I

550
00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:11,790
if I'm remembering correctly it's

551
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:13,820
believed that he was scoping things out

552
00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:17,370
with his girlfriend 6 months prior

553
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:20,550
approximately yep and she recalls him

554
00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:22,710
acting very odd didn't spending a lot of

555
00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:24,270
time looking out the windows and so on

556
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:26,190
and if I remember correctly I think that

557
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:28,410
he was in the 200 wing at that that's

558
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:31,020
correct not the one that is going and I

559
00:23:36,620 --> 00:23:33,570
believe that's why he was kind of upset

560
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:36,630
that it ended up being the 100 wing that

561
00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:39,690
he did him winter and and with that

562
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:41,460
being the case I keep in mind he's you

563
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:42,960
know shoot she was even saying that he

564
00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:44,820
was you know going back and forth from

565
00:23:50,150 --> 00:23:48,360
window to window and they're looking at

566
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,160
the what she thought at the time

567
00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:52,860
according to her statement is that he

568
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:54,600
likes watching the planes take off so

569
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:56,490
from there we're literally right next

570
00:24:00,080 --> 00:23:58,050
door to the airport I'm at the back

571
00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:00,090
entrance to McCarran I'm within 50 feet

572
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,920
of that gate and and from this location

573
00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:06,720
she thought he was just watching the

574
00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:09,030
planes take off but then she could tell

575
00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:10,620
there was something little off it was

576
00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:12,300
obviously off enough for her to remember

577
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,190
it right now he docked out as we know to

578
00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:19,200
Windows what was one of them knocked out

579
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:21,150
do you believe solely so that he could

580
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,710
shoot at the tanks or do you think he

581
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:24,240
also shot out of that window at the

582
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,570
crowd he's he never shot out the window

583
00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:30,000
the wind the window was hammered out I

584
00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:31,590
actually have one right here let's take

585
00:24:35,150 --> 00:24:32,790
a look at

586
00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:35,160
sorry yeah that's my understanding he

587
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:36,660
hammered them both out but as far as

588
00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:39,780
what shooting he did out of the second

589
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:41,180
window that would have been at the tanks

590
00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:44,010
correct the seating out of the second

591
00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:47,100
window room 134 the same room that Brian

592
00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:49,800
Hodge said he was staying in that room

593
00:24:54,530 --> 00:24:52,350
is where he shot at the tanks and all

594
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,540
eight shots from that room this the six

595
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,400
that were done between 1000 and 1009 and

596
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:58,320
the two that were done in 20 seconds

597
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:02,400
before he committed suicide those were

598
00:25:07,670 --> 00:25:04,370
done from that room and there were no

599
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:07,680
guy yes all the other shooting was out

600
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:10,200
of the other window at the crowd correct

601
00:25:19,790 --> 00:25:16,290
and what do you think about the the the

602
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:19,800
floor the 32nd floor is that do you

603
00:25:25,550 --> 00:25:21,780
think the most optimal floor he could

604
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:25,560
have chosen essentially or any any any

605
00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:28,500
sniper knows this if you're firing from

606
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,270
an elevated position as long as you're

607
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:32,880
above the highest object that would be

608
00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:36,090
an obstacle for site to range then that

609
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:39,660
would be ideal so in this case where he

610
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:42,090
was was ideal if you look back behind me

611
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:44,190
to originally people thought that one of

612
00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:45,810
the shooters may have been in those two

613
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:47,310
towers there that was originally for a

614
00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:49,170
ferris wheel that was going to go here

615
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:51,270
and then over here on this side which

616
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:52,470
you can't really see but you can see the

617
00:25:57,970 --> 00:25:54,210
McDonald sign probably in the distance

618
00:26:00,140 --> 00:25:57,980
and there's a mound right there and some

619
00:26:01,370 --> 00:26:00,150
Mike Adams I'll just name him I don't

620
00:26:03,290 --> 00:26:01,380
really care I have very little respect

621
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:03,300
for the guy he said that that was

622
00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:05,510
probably where your second shooter was

623
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:08,750
was that mound but any elevated position

624
00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:11,850
would would be advantageous but

625
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:14,820
obviously the 32nd floor if even higher

626
00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:16,590
would be even better but there's a

627
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:18,180
certain point when you get too high that

628
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:21,510
you're you have to you have to account

629
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:23,970
for gravity pulling the bullet down at a

630
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:25,320
different angle so you have to your

631
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,760
calculation is going to be different and

632
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,760
I think that's why he wanted to check

633
00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:31,440
his calculations because the calculation

634
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:33,480
is generally give you bullet drop are

635
00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:37,440
based on person firing level at at a

636
00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:38,900
target they're not necessarily

637
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:41,400
calculated at a altitude so if you're

638
00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:44,310
already at 300 or so feet firing down

639
00:26:48,380 --> 00:26:46,800
those calculations don't

640
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:48,390
as well that's why snipers have a

641
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:50,850
different set of calculations or how to

642
00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:52,620
do calculations X have computers now

643
00:26:58,570 --> 00:26:56,190
they do it but yeah that's just one of

644
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,580
the ways

645
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:00,480
whenever you whenever you're trying to

646
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:04,050
shoot and an object every time you look

647
00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:05,490
at calculations it's based on you

648
00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:07,860
shooting a straight trajectory that's

649
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:10,350
where you have to aim your rifle and and

650
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:11,970
he was making these calculations right

651
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:13,170
isn't that one of the things that was

652
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:14,880
found in the room yeah there was a note

653
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:18,090
that was found in the room that was on

654
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:20,010
the table or on the floor depending on

655
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:24,030
which statement you're reading that note

656
00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:26,400
had the calculations for the correct

657
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:28,680
distance into the venue so the

658
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:30,210
calculations were strictly for the venue

659
00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:32,250
and they weren't necessarily for the

660
00:27:39,070 --> 00:27:35,670
tanks so you have to take a look at

661
00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:39,080
those and and try to decipher how he was

662
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:40,920
calculating those but generally that's

663
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,110
that's what that was their calculations

664
00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:45,240
for windage elevation and so forth for

665
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:47,580
distance and remind me where are we on

666
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:49,290
bump stock now has that been banned or

667
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:52,620
not banned bannd countrywide there were

668
00:27:57,140 --> 00:27:55,140
a president Trump executive I think he

669
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:57,150
did an executive order on that one or

670
00:28:00,860 --> 00:27:58,500
they passed it to Congress really fast

671
00:28:03,410 --> 00:28:00,870
but it's banned nationwide mm-hmm and I

672
00:28:04,910 --> 00:28:03,420
assume that was something that you were

673
00:28:06,170 --> 00:28:04,920
very familiar I mean most of us had

674
00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:06,180
never heard of this thing called bump

675
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,500
stock I assume you were pretty familiar

676
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:10,080
with it yeah I'm familiar with the bump

677
00:28:15,290 --> 00:28:11,670
stock is a device that basically you

678
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:15,300
attach to the stock area of a weapon and

679
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,250
essentially imagine that having a spring

680
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,620
inside and as you pull the trigger the

681
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:22,320
weapon pulls back and because of the the

682
00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:24,180
ejection of the of the blow at the front

683
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:26,040
and then you're hitting the spring

684
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:27,750
mechanism so you have to learn a balance

685
00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:30,780
to hold the weapon as it moves back and

686
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:33,030
forth bouncing off the spring and going

687
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:35,700
forward chambering around firing around

688
00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:38,580
and then coming back chambering around

689
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:40,020
firing around and coming back and so

690
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:41,490
it's a balancing act torn you can learn

691
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,260
it really quick the muscle memory so

692
00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:45,360
learning a bump stock is very quick have

693
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:49,700
you ever used maybe three times and I

694
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:51,780
didn't care for him there that they hurt

695
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:53,220
you they're they're hard on the shoulder

696
00:28:58,130 --> 00:28:55,770
you know they're not that bad but

697
00:28:59,840 --> 00:28:58,140
they're just hard on the shoulder like

698
00:29:00,560 --> 00:28:59,850
if I'm gonna go fully auto I used to

699
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:00,570
have an mp5

700
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:03,210
and that was a great shooting gun and

701
00:29:08,899 --> 00:29:05,970
Olli Otto is you know obviously the way

702
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:08,909
to go but you see what do you think

703
00:29:11,899 --> 00:29:10,110
about the what do you think about the

704
00:29:13,999 --> 00:29:11,909
number of shots he fired which was over

705
00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:14,009
a thousand right in in in a ten minute

706
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:16,919
period and he's a guy in in not the best

707
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,710
health my is it your theory that that's

708
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:22,080
probably the why the reason he stopped

709
00:29:26,539 --> 00:29:24,330
you just was out of gas

710
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,549
absolutely and you can you can tell that

711
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:29,039
by the very last round you can the very

712
00:29:32,749 --> 00:29:30,480
last volley you can actually hear the

713
00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:32,759
firing pattern change as he's firing in

714
00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:34,830
the beginning when people were analyzing

715
00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:36,539
the the weapon fire they thought it was

716
00:29:41,389 --> 00:29:39,870
just like a two m240 or a belt-fed you

717
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:41,399
know any of the belt-fed series of

718
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:42,450
automatics or something along those

719
00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:42,840
lines

720
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:44,789
it clearly clear wasn't they they

721
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:46,049
thought that because of the sound it

722
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:47,700
made but if you look at the the way

723
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:49,710
mandalay bay has made its a curved

724
00:29:54,409 --> 00:29:51,809
building so you're in a parabolic curve

725
00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:54,419
this way and that obviously amplifies

726
00:29:58,190 --> 00:29:55,830
the effect what most like if you would

727
00:30:00,680 --> 00:29:58,200
shout into a bowl but anyway that's a

728
00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:00,690
bad analogy but it kind of works but the

729
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:04,740
as far as the as far as the bump stock

730
00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:08,580
being an ideal choice no it would not be

731
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:11,940
an ideal choice but well what ematic

732
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:13,289
rifles are illegal though so if you

733
00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:14,490
can't get your hands on them they're

734
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:18,750
this your second best option you have to

735
00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:21,240
have a class three license to get it i

736
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,950
used to be afraid all a licensed

737
00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:24,539
firearms dealer under my business called

738
00:30:29,509 --> 00:30:27,870
world of weapons and you know we we sold

739
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:29,519
quite a few weapons obviously whether

740
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:33,090
most it was knives and especially so how

741
00:30:40,009 --> 00:30:35,370
would how would an individual joe like

742
00:30:41,509 --> 00:30:40,019
paddock get a class three license to go

743
00:30:43,369 --> 00:30:41,519
for the doc stamp doc free stamp you

744
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:43,379
basically you submit a form that goes to

745
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:45,990
atf whatever you buy a weapon there's a

746
00:30:50,029 --> 00:30:48,240
form called the 4473 that's you yellow

747
00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:50,039
form you fill out and that goes to atf

748
00:30:53,659 --> 00:30:51,659
and you have a three day waiting period

749
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:53,669
which is part of the brady bill which

750
00:30:59,060 --> 00:30:55,529
when brave a shot is to make people wait

751
00:31:02,029 --> 00:30:59,070
three days because it Hinckley but with

752
00:31:03,289 --> 00:31:02,039
a with that type of class three you the

753
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:03,299
waiting is a little bit longer they do a

754
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:05,490
little bit more investigating into what

755
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:07,740
it is you want it for whatever but most

756
00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:09,090
people get them for sports shooting and

757
00:31:12,889 --> 00:31:11,190
stuff like that and very I can't think

758
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:12,899
of anyone I've ever known or anyone that

759
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:16,860
I've ever sold a firearm to buy a fully

760
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:19,710
auto weapon and go hunting with it so

761
00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:22,049
it's really just for sporting or for

762
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:23,700
what-have-you but you know this is the

763
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:25,710
United States and you know you got two

764
00:31:30,529 --> 00:31:27,510
sides of that coin like why would

765
00:31:33,169 --> 00:31:30,539
someone even need that to even go do

766
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:33,179
sports shooting I mean it just doesn't

767
00:31:35,930 --> 00:31:34,470
make a lot of sense to a lot of people

768
00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:35,940
but for the person that wants to do it

769
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,860
makes a lot of sense to them it's a free

770
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,120
country they want to do it they should

771
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:41,760
be able to do it so what reason would

772
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:44,850
Patek have given for his desire for an

773
00:31:52,129 --> 00:31:47,970
automatic rifle and that would have

774
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,139
satisfied the guy issuing the license

775
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:54,240
well that would call for speculation on

776
00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:57,450
our parts but if he did do it it would

777
00:32:02,269 --> 00:31:59,370
be normally for sports shooting or of

778
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:02,279
some sort but that's it you just got to

779
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:04,409
say I need it for sport shooting and

780
00:32:07,779 --> 00:32:05,820
then as long as you pass a background

781
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:07,789
check meaning you got no convictions

782
00:32:12,259 --> 00:32:11,159
check the box you can wow I didn't know

783
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,269
that I don't know if everybody else

784
00:32:17,740 --> 00:32:14,240
knows that we keep talking about banning

785
00:32:20,629 --> 00:32:17,750
semi-automatic rifles I had no idea that

786
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:20,639
the semi fully automatic rifles if you

787
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:22,230
listen to the Democratic side have been

788
00:32:26,659 --> 00:32:24,000
using that term quite a bit they semi

789
00:32:28,879 --> 00:32:26,669
fully automatic which is not even

790
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,889
possible is it's just they're using the

791
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:31,919
wrong term but yes semi automatic you

792
00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:33,690
have to actually do something to make

793
00:32:39,019 --> 00:32:36,779
the weapon fire each time right so you

794
00:32:41,810 --> 00:32:39,029
know let me ask you this all the other

795
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:41,820
shootings and I decided to look it up

796
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:44,190
and it looks like according to Wikipedia

797
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:46,769
that since the Vegas shooting in the

798
00:32:53,749 --> 00:32:51,899
past two years 16 shootings where 10 or

799
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:53,759
more people were injured or killed and

800
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:57,600
30 over 30 where three or more were

801
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:01,679
invited but in all those shootings did

802
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:04,470
any of them involve automatic rifles as

803
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:09,330
far as you know okay that is basically

804
00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:12,090
this it's it doesn't matter how many are

805
00:33:16,869 --> 00:33:14,940
automatic or what have you the question

806
00:33:19,159 --> 00:33:16,879
that most people have an issue with is

807
00:33:21,139 --> 00:33:19,169
the fact that that's an assault type

808
00:33:24,259 --> 00:33:21,149
rifle and the number of rounds that it

809
00:33:25,549 --> 00:33:24,269
can fire the number of okay fire but

810
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:25,559
can't you fire a lot more quickly with

811
00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:26,039
automatic

812
00:33:30,890 --> 00:33:27,630
yeah of course but you're less

813
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:30,900
accurate so now that the thing the

814
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:32,610
situation with Patek obviously is that

815
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:34,590
he was firing into essentially a

816
00:33:42,010 --> 00:33:37,320
fishbowl this is the analogy to use and

817
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,020
so that gave him you know the amount of

818
00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:44,820
carnage and without choosing a better

819
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:47,940
word is a lot higher because he could

820
00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:50,310
just shoot and spray or scold spray and

821
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:55,220
pray or write that would be a reason to

822
00:33:58,820 --> 00:33:57,810
prohibit potentially automatic rifles

823
00:34:00,440 --> 00:33:58,830
because if you're talking about shooting

824
00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:00,450
into a crowd you're gonna do a hell of a

825
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:02,280
lot more damage yeah but you have to me

826
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:03,570
what you have to be real careful about

827
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:05,100
that because think about what Hillary

828
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:07,500
Clinton said she's heard for her first

829
00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:09,870
things were to banned banned weapons

830
00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:13,800
ooha silencers and ban yes like there

831
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:15,600
was no silencers on any of this what the

832
00:34:18,740 --> 00:34:16,889
weapons that were used here and that was

833
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:18,750
the first thing she said so a lot of

834
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,280
people jump on the bandwagon to ban

835
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,800
things because one person or

836
00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:24,000
what-have-you if you look at all the

837
00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:25,260
shootings that happen in United States

838
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,360
each year and compared to the number of

839
00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:29,040
shootings in a mass shooting and the

840
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:30,840
specific weapons that are used you're

841
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:32,310
probably gonna find that the numbers are

842
00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:34,500
pretty well skewed it's just whenever is

843
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,260
something like this I'm not I'm not

844
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:38,820
making an excuse for any of this I mean

845
00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:41,580
it sounds it's horrible no matter what

846
00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:45,000
but the the situation is kind of you

847
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:46,230
know it's easy to jump on the bandwagon

848
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:48,300
to ban something when an event like this

849
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,850
happens well but you're really you're

850
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:53,040
confusing me because you're saying that

851
00:34:59,900 --> 00:34:55,379
we've banned bump stock at least through

852
00:35:03,410 --> 00:34:59,910
executive order yep yet there's no ban

853
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:03,420
on automatic harder to buy an automatic

854
00:35:06,260 --> 00:35:04,380
that's what that's the reason for the

855
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:06,270
bump stocks and back in the day used to

856
00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:07,920
have a device called the Hellfire

857
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:10,140
trigger and the Hellfire is actually

858
00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:11,730
what was used in the Branch Davidians in

859
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:15,860
fact the company that I sold knives to I

860
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:18,080
don't know if I meant well on the

861
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,910
company American survivalists they sold

862
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:22,320
the Hellfire triggers to Branch

863
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:23,910
Davidians and I had just sold them a

864
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:25,260
whole bunch of switch blades so

865
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:27,000
everybody thought everything was illegal

866
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:28,740
no matter what it was and not to I

867
00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:29,940
didn't sell the Branch Davidians switch

868
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:32,700
basis so Americans violence but the that

869
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:34,710
that Hellfire trigger is just a spring

870
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,510
mechanism that went right on the trigger

871
00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:38,640
much like the bump stock is a spring

872
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:41,340
mechanism for the entire stock area they

873
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:41,640
help

874
00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:43,230
our trigger was simply went behind the

875
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:44,670
trigger and just you just put your

876
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:46,170
finger in there and as the trigger would

877
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:47,730
bounce back and forth into your hand is

878
00:35:53,390 --> 00:35:51,690
it illegal today not now no and so and

879
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:53,400
that's that's the issue is they come up

880
00:35:58,250 --> 00:35:54,660
with these devices and to keep

881
00:36:01,099 --> 00:35:58,260
circumvent circumventing the laws and

882
00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:01,109
they keep allowing for loopholes in

883
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:03,240
these laws through other devices made it

884
00:36:07,089 --> 00:36:04,650
what you think would be simple just to

885
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:07,099
say any device that makes a weapon fire

886
00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:09,690
unnaturally you know meaning that it

887
00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:11,160
would it would otherwise it wouldn't

888
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:13,349
fire without this device an impaired and

889
00:36:16,789 --> 00:36:15,089
that would be considered automatic or

890
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:16,799
seemed automatic should be should be

891
00:36:19,819 --> 00:36:18,089
illegal to the general public

892
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:19,829
and I agree with that I think that's

893
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:24,000
fair why wouldn't panic have gone ahead

894
00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:26,430
and gotten automatic rifles good

895
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:28,440
question he had the money obviously and

896
00:36:33,319 --> 00:36:31,049
you know he had the time because he'd be

897
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:33,329
planning this over a decent period of

898
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:36,119
time so that's a good question I don't

899
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:39,390
know I can ask Eric and see if if he has

900
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:41,849
an idea of what that would be yeah so as

901
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:43,859
Long's were on the issue of all these

902
00:36:48,049 --> 00:36:46,200
mass shootings and so on you know people

903
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:48,059
clearly there's been a significant

904
00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:51,720
increase in them what's your theory

905
00:36:55,549 --> 00:36:53,670
behind why we've seen such a huge

906
00:36:58,759 --> 00:36:55,559
increase in mass shootings and and what

907
00:37:01,309 --> 00:36:58,769
could be done about it I think it's a

908
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:01,319
combination of many factors I think you

909
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:03,210
know you have one side that believes

910
00:37:12,769 --> 00:37:07,470
video games have desensitized the teens

911
00:37:15,769 --> 00:37:12,779
and adults into you know viewing this as

912
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:15,779
more of a video game like a you know

913
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:17,730
like one of the Tom Clancy series or

914
00:37:23,569 --> 00:37:20,750
something and so with that in mind the

915
00:37:25,819 --> 00:37:23,579
you know that takes care of your teenage

916
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:25,829
group mainly because already desensitize

917
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:27,960
it to it as they grow older so seeing it

918
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:30,210
and fantasizing about it dreaming it

919
00:37:33,019 --> 00:37:31,380
because I don't know if you've ever

920
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:33,029
played a first-person shooter game but I

921
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:35,849
used to play them extensively and back

922
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:37,890
in the days when it created Wolfenstein

923
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:39,809
and doom and quake and all those games

924
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,910
and I can tell you that I would go to

925
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:43,920
sleep or in the middle of the day of a

926
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:46,920
daydream about you know playing that

927
00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:51,210
game but I never I never thought of

928
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:53,579
actually doing that in real life but if

929
00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:55,380
you're pissed off and you come home

930
00:37:58,220 --> 00:37:56,280
and you want to take out some

931
00:38:00,680 --> 00:37:58,230
frustrations it's better to take it out

932
00:38:03,070 --> 00:38:00,690
on a video game then you go down and do

933
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:03,080
this so that's the other end of spectrum

934
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:07,260
so that's one area the other thing is

935
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:09,690
the United States has a very big problem

936
00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:13,740
with mental illness and if you haven't

937
00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:16,260
noticed a lot of these people have some

938
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:19,830
form of mental illness now they keep

939
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:22,490
diagnosing these people after the fact

940
00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:24,780
but for some of the people they're

941
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:26,430
diagnosed beforehand and they're all

942
00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:30,390
taking similar medications and there's

943
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:32,580
another look at and that's something

944
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:36,570
that I think that should be explored and

945
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:38,250
of course you're right every single mass

946
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:41,010
shooter has has been mentally ill so you

947
00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:42,540
so that gives you four times more

948
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:44,520
likelihood right there just by doubling

949
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:45,960
the population and doubling the number

950
00:39:04,030 --> 00:38:52,530
of mental illness differences between so

951
00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:04,040
the 50s and today watching movies and I

952
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:06,540
used to play I used to play war in the

953
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:19,230
backyard my system you didn't I'm still

954
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:22,080
there but I'm heading across the street

955
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:25,560
here now the way America has changed

956
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:28,440
over the past 50 or so years back in the

957
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:31,130
day you know we got behind a bunch of

958
00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:33,300
different programs like when the moon

959
00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:35,070
shot things like that in America could

960
00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:37,230
get together and I never seen this

961
00:39:44,110 --> 00:39:41,790
before and I take a look at this these

962
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:44,120
are the names of the honoring the 58

963
00:39:53,620 --> 00:39:52,200
nice name by the gate here so what are

964
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,630
those things that are tied to that gene

965
00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:55,920
each of the chains have a piece of metal

966
00:39:59,210 --> 00:39:57,660
on it in the name of one of the 58 is

967
00:40:02,360 --> 00:39:59,220
described on the or written and

968
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:02,370
indelible ink on those is that new for

969
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:04,440
today do you think I've never seen

970
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:05,700
before that's the first time I've seen

971
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:08,380
it is that the that's the

972
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:10,090
it's fenced off obviously but that's one

973
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:12,010
of the entrances I made I think this is

974
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:20,010
so this is gate six so this is actually

975
00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:21,460
what Karthik Carlos came out that the

976
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:24,580
the 15 minute the longer video that

977
00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:26,170
everybody remembers seeing this is a

978
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:29,320
gate he came out of but that's I've

979
00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:30,700
never seen that here there's really

980
00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:32,140
nothing here the thing is is that

981
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:35,380
they've never they never put up any well

982
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:36,880
other than the plan on doing the

983
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:38,710
memorial they plan on doing that but the

984
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:40,330
only moral this year is Melissa's which

985
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:42,490
is right across the way here at the end

986
00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:43,900
of Alabama and across the street were

987
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:46,060
where I got that video let me ask you

988
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:47,710
essentially they are about snipers

989
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:50,020
should there have been snipers there and

990
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:51,790
if so where would they have been and how

991
00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:53,770
effective would they have been well that

992
00:40:58,110 --> 00:40:56,260
gets into some of the Mac TAC and how

993
00:41:00,000 --> 00:40:58,120
and how they're supposed to respond to

994
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:00,010
these types of situations and we're

995
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:02,440
looking at with you're probably here

996
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:03,520
know what I win again let me turn around

997
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:09,250
so I can actually talk to you putting

998
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:12,310
snipers up is is a catch-22 because they

999
00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:15,220
have to identify the target determine if

1000
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,080
the target is still a credible threat

1001
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:20,560
and then take out the target if they're

1002
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:21,850
really good then they just take out the

1003
00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:25,510
weapon but the main thing is is to

1004
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:29,260
remove the threat and if you that's

1005
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:30,640
what's going to happen from here on out

1006
00:41:37,110 --> 00:41:33,670
because some of the changes will be just

1007
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,120
that will be them actually putting

1008
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:39,520
snipers in the locations they actually

1009
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:42,850
tried to have a sniper shoot a scenario

1010
00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:44,710
similar to this I'm sure I saw this

1011
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:48,700
might from similar to this with with a

1012
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:51,970
sniper up or helicopters flying over

1013
00:42:00,180 --> 00:41:57,280
here over the event and then a janitor

1014
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:00,190
just got here if somebody's going home

1015
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,530
but the

1016
00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:03,599
[Music]

1017
00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:05,550
the way the way that they're planning on

1018
00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:06,900
doing that is to have them set up in

1019
00:42:10,579 --> 00:42:08,760
strategic locations now for cater

1020
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:10,589
obviously with his two towers right

1021
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:13,320
there in the background yeah you can

1022
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:15,510
climb up inside there actually went

1023
00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:18,300
inside those the last time or long about

1024
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:20,099
a year ago everybody thought that that

1025
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:22,920
was a possible place where they was

1026
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:25,800
hiring some because it if there had been

1027
00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:28,380
snipers on the rooftop of Mandalay Bay

1028
00:42:34,339 --> 00:42:31,460
is there anyone has anything why not

1029
00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:34,349
well if you're on top of being on top of

1030
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:35,220
the building you're trying to shoot down

1031
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:38,609
into room 32 well I'm thinking about the

1032
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,200
other Tower or the other wing yeah is

1033
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:45,440
the placement of the sniper is obviously

1034
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:47,970
the same situation is the placement of

1035
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:51,480
the shooter so both are just as equally

1036
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,490
important so you would have to you'd

1037
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:55,440
have to think like the shooter and

1038
00:43:03,920 --> 00:42:59,119
determine where is it to you want to be

1039
00:43:05,660 --> 00:43:03,930
just a little bit to leather yeah well I

1040
00:43:08,359 --> 00:43:05,670
mean you're looking at the hotel's now

1041
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:08,369
and knowing where paddock was is there

1042
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:10,170
any if you had been on a different wing

1043
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,910
of the Mandalay Bay or if you'd been on

1044
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:14,400
the Delano would that it made a

1045
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:17,490
difference I don't know would have not

1046
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:19,050
worked at all because it's essentially

1047
00:43:22,310 --> 00:43:21,089
behind and I'm getting closer to the

1048
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:22,320
Mandalay Bay so you'll actually get a

1049
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:23,400
very good perspective here in this

1050
00:43:29,870 --> 00:43:25,849
moment maybe we'll go find some glass

1051
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:29,880
but the the angle wouldn't work now if I

1052
00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:32,520
was in my room and three to two or nine

1053
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,980
I could shoot at one of the rooms I

1054
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:36,540
wouldn't be able to hit I would not have

1055
00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:38,310
been able to hit him in three two one

1056
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:40,200
three five but when he came over two

1057
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:42,089
three two ones before I probably could

1058
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,609
hit him if he was at the window but he

1059
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,839
wasn't at the one that was laying across

1060
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:47,760
the bed so I still wouldn't been able to

1061
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:51,089
hit him what about the Life is Beautiful

1062
00:43:56,810 --> 00:43:55,200
festival downtown I know that he scoped

1063
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,820
it out a week before the Vegas shooting

1064
00:44:08,440 --> 00:43:58,800
I think they think they just held that

1065
00:44:12,590 --> 00:44:10,100
the question is

1066
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:12,600
was this going to be an event at the

1067
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:16,740
augment I don't think so basically

1068
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,870
because he he took a number of trips

1069
00:44:23,180 --> 00:44:21,060
back and forth to mesquite back to

1070
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,190
Mandalay Bay and he did not do that same

1071
00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:25,920
thing when he was at the Ogden so he

1072
00:44:30,590 --> 00:44:27,990
brought the number of number suitcases

1073
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,600
whatever there and of course at Mandalay

1074
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:32,400
Bay it was a little easier for him

1075
00:44:36,350 --> 00:44:34,890
because he was more known and as you as

1076
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:36,360
you saw when I was going up the service

1077
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:39,780
elevators how easy that was to do he

1078
00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:42,230
didn't seem to have a problem here yeah

1079
00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:45,120
what about security for the Life is

1080
00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:46,950
Beautiful festival do you know if they

1081
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:49,080
had snipers you know what what extang's

1082
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:51,450
they put in place I don't know if they I

1083
00:44:55,850 --> 00:44:54,570
just got the head snipers it's possible

1084
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:55,860
I don't wanna say they didn't and they

1085
00:45:01,040 --> 00:44:59,280
did but I'll say the I would say no that

1086
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:01,050
they didn't how about how about extra

1087
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:03,780
security in the hotels to make sure

1088
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:05,610
nobody's bringing rifles up to their

1089
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:06,810
rooms during the life is beautiful

1090
00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:07,650
festival

1091
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,740
well that's what you would think they

1092
00:45:14,060 --> 00:45:12,480
only know the hotel here that actually

1093
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:14,070
went out of their way to make extra

1094
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:16,440
security in the last few years is the

1095
00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:19,920
wind and of course we saw how well that

1096
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:22,470
worked when I went up there service

1097
00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:25,410
elevators but the extra security that

1098
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:27,980
they put in a place since the shooting

1099
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:30,090
now keep in mind whenever when I did the

1100
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:32,970
elevator trips the first 27 times before

1101
00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:36,890
I took lower Loomer up then they did a

1102
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:38,580
statement that they were going to look

1103
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:39,930
at the footage and change their security

1104
00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:41,070
whether they change their security and

1105
00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:41,940
then I did it again

1106
00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:45,180
so the the problem with their security

1107
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:49,470
is how is there throwing technology at a

1108
00:45:55,310 --> 00:45:53,280
human problem and so what you need to do

1109
00:45:57,830 --> 00:45:55,320
is have well-trained employees knowing

1110
00:46:00,080 --> 00:45:57,840
what to look for and if that would have

1111
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,090
been the case it probably would have

1112
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:02,160
been different the number of bags going

1113
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:05,070
to the room the the guys helping them

1114
00:46:08,810 --> 00:46:07,080
load the bags well that should be your

1115
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:08,820
next test is trying to get up to a

1116
00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:12,210
Mandalay Bay room with with read up with

1117
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:28,069
I'm gonna do that while I'm here so if

1118
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:33,030
this airs tomorrow on some sort of list

1119
00:46:42,859 --> 00:46:36,420
but we'll see how good their facial

1120
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:42,869
recognition let me ask you for an update

1121
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:48,180
on FBI FOIA requests etc okay you know

1122
00:46:51,319 --> 00:46:49,770
what do you know about is the FBI going

1123
00:46:52,549 --> 00:46:51,329
to release anything else in our through

1124
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:52,559
these house staining for you request

1125
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:53,700
trying to get the information because

1126
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:55,500
all we've seen so far is a two and a

1127
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,130
half page letter yeah and the thing is

1128
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:00,720
what people have to remember is the FBI

1129
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,170
was not the lead on this case LVM PD was

1130
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:06,480
the lead the FBI was a supportive role

1131
00:47:10,099 --> 00:47:08,760
so we were looking for a report that we

1132
00:47:11,779 --> 00:47:10,109
probably should have thought more

1133
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:11,789
clearly about and understood that we

1134
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:13,650
weren't going to get that but all of

1135
00:47:20,539 --> 00:47:16,380
what I was told and what my

1136
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:20,549
understanding is that all of the reports

1137
00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:23,430
were sent back to lb MPD and they should

1138
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:24,900
have disseminated those out to the

1139
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:27,180
public or out to the media as they were

1140
00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:29,910
required to do by the court and they

1141
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:32,430
didn't do that in fact it's my estimate

1142
00:47:36,339 --> 00:47:34,980
and the estimate of two other or a few

1143
00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:36,349
other people here that they're

1144
00:47:41,539 --> 00:47:39,230
behind-the-scenes guys that I actually

1145
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:41,549
know a lot of credit to there's two guys

1146
00:47:47,180 --> 00:47:43,890
here well of course one is we're going

1147
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:47,190
the others lbs a on YouTube and those

1148
00:47:51,799 --> 00:47:49,529
guys have done a tremendous amount of

1149
00:47:54,049 --> 00:47:51,809
work on archiving all of this

1150
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:54,059
information and what has come out of

1151
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:56,010
that especially with the work of LVS a

1152
00:48:01,250 --> 00:47:58,980
is nestled on Vegas shooting archive by

1153
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:01,260
the way what's come out of that is that

1154
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:03,750
there's an estimate of at least probably

1155
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,650
about 50% of the documents and videos of

1156
00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:09,599
body 1 camera videos and various other

1157
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,460
footage and stuff that was supposed to

1158
00:48:17,059 --> 00:48:13,520
be released to the media was never done

1159
00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:17,069
so the court order effectively sheriff

1160
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:19,079
Lombardo and the LVN PD is in contempt

1161
00:48:22,579 --> 00:48:20,640
of court because they were ordered to

1162
00:48:24,289 --> 00:48:22,589
release at all that would mean

1163
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,299
everything including whatever they've

1164
00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:27,119
acquired from whatever they've acquired

1165
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:29,460
from the cameras that were taken from

1166
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:31,890
the public the the footage from people's

1167
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,049
cell phones if they did do that and

1168
00:48:37,460 --> 00:48:36,599
quite a few other things but we've never

1169
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:37,470
seen it you

1170
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:39,270
what about the plaintiffs lawyers I

1171
00:48:41,690 --> 00:48:40,200
would think they would want this

1172
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:41,700
information and they certainly have the

1173
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:45,599
resources to get it you think and you

1174
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:50,270
know I don't think they I think it went

1175
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:52,890
and once they realized that the the case

1176
00:48:58,460 --> 00:48:55,410
has gone into a settlement talks that

1177
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,470
maybe that part of the the action on

1178
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:00,420
their part would slow down and that's

1179
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:02,430
that would probably hinder their their

1180
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:03,720
ability to do stuff if they're so

1181
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:05,640
hammering other lawyers while they're

1182
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:07,290
trying to get other stuff is they

1183
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:08,580
probably the other lawyers probably

1184
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:11,130
wouldn't respond in kind so they

1185
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:12,210
probably have an agreement of saying

1186
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:13,980
okay we're gonna stop you're gonna stop

1187
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:15,180
what you're doing there and we're going

1188
00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:16,859
to negotiate on the amount at this point

1189
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:19,590
no more asking for this or that

1190
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:22,050
as far as documents from the FBI though

1191
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,090
I think rouse has been quoted as saying

1192
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:27,119
that we've got over a thousand agents

1193
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:29,130
and over a hundred offices to

1194
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:31,800
investigating this so sounds like a lot

1195
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:34,560
of work product there's a lot and I have

1196
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,000
with an with another person her name is

1197
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,760
we'll just call Michelle we were or she

1198
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,440
was able to get a foyer approved and

1199
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:45,680
I've I'm gonna help her with that and

1200
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,780
we've got 28 CDs worth of information

1201
00:49:54,589 --> 00:49:51,839
coming to us for over 14,000 documents

1202
00:49:57,500 --> 00:49:54,599
all on just Steven paddock as fourteen

1203
00:50:00,349 --> 00:49:57,510
thousand documents or pages just on

1204
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Steven paddock so and we don't know

1205
00:50:02,810 --> 00:50:01,290
really what it's all going to be

1206
00:50:04,849 --> 00:50:02,820
included in there my four-year request

1207
00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:04,859
I've got three in there that are fairly

1208
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:07,859
a fairly large request and mainly I'm

1209
00:50:10,310 --> 00:50:09,180
trying to get the ballistics right now

1210
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:10,320
is what I've been trying to do is going

1211
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:13,170
to ask what does the FBI said in

1212
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:14,570
response to your four-year requests

1213
00:50:20,570 --> 00:50:17,880
nothing so far they they haven't really

1214
00:50:22,099 --> 00:50:20,580
approved or disapproved they said one of

1215
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,109
them was said it was overly broad and

1216
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:24,240
burdensome and it would be handled by

1217
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,310
and I got that basic response that a lot

1218
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:27,599
of people got back was that all the

1219
00:50:32,359 --> 00:50:28,890
information will be put into the FBI

1220
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:32,369
vault but the FBI is not a term of a

1221
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:34,260
physical location it's actually part of

1222
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:35,910
their website that they put information

1223
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,710
that they release to the public in a

1224
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:38,880
certain area where you can go take a

1225
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:40,710
look at it and what have you and that's

1226
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:42,089
where they started going to put it it's

1227
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,710
but it's two years now and then we don't

1228
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:45,599
have anything there and I'm hoping that

1229
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,710
they're not going to wait until they get

1230
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:48,480
you know all of it that they're going to

1231
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:49,770
do done and put it in there they can

1232
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:50,940
make it a work in progress and

1233
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,190
because it's a large amount of

1234
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,400
information yeah they made a lot of bold

1235
00:51:00,770 --> 00:50:59,280
conclusions in that two-and-a-half page

1236
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:00,780
letter including that Isis had

1237
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:02,609
absolutely nothing to do with it I would

1238
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:04,050
just like to see some of the supporting

1239
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:07,619
documentation yeah well I can I can back

1240
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,260
them up on that one the ISIS in this

1241
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:12,319
particular case I know we talked about a

1242
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,450
lady that had a different opinion to

1243
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:18,000
that but the intelligence community

1244
00:51:22,609 --> 00:51:21,390
would be screaming quite a bit if Isis

1245
00:51:25,579 --> 00:51:22,619
had something to do with it you would

1246
00:51:27,319 --> 00:51:25,589
have already heard cries come out from

1247
00:51:29,930 --> 00:51:27,329
the intelligence community of several

1248
00:51:32,740 --> 00:51:29,940
whistleblowers talking about that

1249
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:35,990
I tend to agree I'm just kind of curious

1250
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,400
because it is so significant that Isis

1251
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:40,079
claimed responsibility twice through

1252
00:51:44,770 --> 00:51:42,150
official channels and it turned out that

1253
00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:44,780
it was bogus I would love to kind of see

1254
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:47,400
you know what investigation was done of

1255
00:51:54,109 --> 00:51:52,440
that and how they just you know show you

1256
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:54,119
that they're gonna say how they were

1257
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:55,740
able to find out something wasn't going

1258
00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:01,920
to happen in telecommute

1259
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:04,260
through our investigation and through

1260
00:52:07,819 --> 00:52:06,329
blah blah blah we were able to determine

1261
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:07,829
Isis had nothing to do with and that's

1262
00:52:10,819 --> 00:52:09,300
all you're gonna be here they're not

1263
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:10,829
going to tell you how they were able to

1264
00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:11,849
know that they weren't going to do it

1265
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:14,760
because that would tip the hand over to

1266
00:52:19,609 --> 00:52:16,970
Isis to say hey this is how we find out

1267
00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:19,619
and here you go or which you know one of

1268
00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:20,700
the things a lot of people don't know is

1269
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:22,260
a lot of the intelligence gathering now

1270
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:24,150
is done through video games sorry about

1271
00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:28,920
the background noise but a lot of the

1272
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:31,380
intelligence gathering is actually done

1273
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,550
through video games you have a lot of

1274
00:52:37,849 --> 00:52:34,319
people that are that are hired to work

1275
00:52:40,099 --> 00:52:37,859
for well we'll just call it a agency

1276
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:40,109
somewhere and they play video games all

1277
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:41,849
day long and they play the video games

1278
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,650
with Isis members would you believe that

1279
00:52:50,030 --> 00:52:46,260
not crazy that's what they do

1280
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:50,040
and because that is now the unit or X X

1281
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:52,950
Isis members are current current Isis

1282
00:52:57,260 --> 00:52:55,290
members and the reason the reason well

1283
00:52:59,839 --> 00:52:57,270
Massacre now because Isis pretty old

1284
00:53:02,540 --> 00:52:59,849
I wouldn't say disbanded but what video

1285
00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:02,550
game are they playing they play a

1286
00:53:06,799 --> 00:53:04,380
first-person shooters but they

1287
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:06,809
game systems Playstation and that's

1288
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:09,480
essentially the the method that they

1289
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:11,910
choose for communication because it's

1290
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:15,119
very hard to monitor communication over

1291
00:53:18,259 --> 00:53:16,410
a video game channel

1292
00:53:19,999 --> 00:53:18,269
yeah because those things are set up and

1293
00:53:24,019 --> 00:53:20,009
taken down at will and each one is

1294
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:24,029
encrypted so the FBI is listening in on

1295
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:26,910
it by by participating somehow in the

1296
00:53:35,410 --> 00:53:30,690
back channels of those games not but

1297
00:53:40,299 --> 00:53:38,180
you got a in the three-letter range and

1298
00:53:45,099 --> 00:53:40,309
you'll get it eventually

1299
00:53:46,279 --> 00:53:45,109
well I'll need to confirmed or denied

1300
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:46,289
DEA

1301
00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:49,650
no no no what media DDA would be

1302
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:52,920
domestic CIA would be would be foreign

1303
00:53:55,249 --> 00:53:53,609
and domestic

1304
00:54:00,259 --> 00:53:55,259
and there's another agency that handles

1305
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:00,269
just primarily like 99% foreign alright

1306
00:54:07,730 --> 00:54:02,250
we'll come off a largest largest agency

1307
00:54:12,109 --> 00:54:07,740
in the world of its type I'm out of

1308
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:12,119
guesses come on come on Michael okay all

1309
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:13,529
of our listeners I'm sure know what it

1310
00:54:17,539 --> 00:54:15,359
is well I'm they went up enough not to

1311
00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:17,549
figure it out well just say look up this